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beatlenut
07-08-2005, 04:58 PM
Pros and cons? I hate all the cables up there: AG stomp, Vox Tonelab SE connected to direct boxes and my guitars.

reverbbb
07-08-2005, 05:58 PM
Pros:

* Freedom from cables
* Can move into the audience to hear the sound check or encourage listeners

Cons:

* Batteries
* Expensive
* Don't forget to mute when you go to the bathroom (oops, vocal wireless only)
* Batteries

Some folks say they can hear compression, but those are the tone freaks that are purist. If you get one, be sure that you get one that you can select your own channels. Senheiser is what I use. But the wire from your guitar to your transmitter pack can easily get caught on door knobs and chairs. Did I mention they burn through batteries?

prscustom24
07-08-2005, 06:48 PM
I use the Shure ULXP14: UHF, frequency agile, diversity. Plenty of headroom, no discernible compression. XLR and single-ended outputs. Lockable settings on both transmitter and receiver. $$$

Yes, they eat batteries; get yourself a few rechargeable NiMH's. I use the NiMH's during rehearsals but due to their end-of-charge characteristic, I only use alkalines in performance.

If you're the only one in the group going wireless, pick a channel, any (quiet) channel. If there are others, you may all have to do some frequency planning.

As reverbbb said, it's a kick to get out in the house to hear the mix as the audience will hear you. You can literally tune the room to get the best sound possible for the most people. Once you try it you'll see what we mean.

This is a product area where you get what you pay for. You want quiet operation, stability, no dropouts, a football field's worth of range, be prepared to pay north of $700. There are all kinds of $149 units listed online that just aren't gonna cut it.

Crunchyriff
07-09-2005, 12:22 AM
Some folks say they can hear compression, but those are the tone freaks that are purist.

Uhh...me? :oops:

It depends on the particular circuit, actually. Yes, I could definitely hear the companding circuit in my old Nady 201. lostsa changes since then...

I would second the 700 bucks and up category. The ones in the mid 400 bracket (say at MF, GC, etc) may have some merit; but above all else, especially with wireless, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

UHF is the way to go.

beatlenut
07-09-2005, 12:56 AM
Does the receiver plug into my Vox Tonelab SE or does it plug direct into an open channel on the board in ADDITION to where my Tonelab plugs in?

MrMike
07-09-2005, 01:53 AM
The output from the receiver plugs in right where the cable from your guitar would.

beatlenut
07-09-2005, 01:58 AM
The output from the receiver plugs in right where the cable from your guitar would.

That is great news. I didn't want to have to use another channel on the board. We only have 1 left.

reverbbb
07-09-2005, 03:37 AM
Some folks say they can hear compression, but those are the tone freaks that are purist.

Uhh...me? :oops:

It depends on the particular circuit, actually. Yes, I could definitely hear the companding circuit in my old Nady 201. lostsa changes since then...

I would second the 700 bucks and up category. The ones in the mid 400 bracket (say at MF, GC, etc) may have some merit; but above all else, especially with wireless, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

UHF is the way to go.

You're right. I guess I should have qualified that with cheaper or older technology wireless. I cannot hear any compression on my Sennheiser. It sells for around $450. The digital version was on sell for $299 for nearly a year. But I never used the digital Sennheiser.

beatlenut
07-09-2005, 01:40 PM
Yeah, I've got a change to get a NOS digital version of the Sennheiser for around $200 shipped. I've got a request in for a quote on the one that normally sells for $450 too.