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ptrallan01
05-16-2011, 09:55 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20110516/sc_livescience/noheavenwhystephenhawkingscommentdoesntmatter

Love reading about science and cosmology even though I don't agree with the conclusions of Mr. Hawkins and his cronies on the reality of God and His incarnation as Jesus of Nazareth. Below is my response to some of the vitrolic comments made on each side of the debate. Tell me what you think.

Thanks

Wow, so much passion on this issue.
A quick primer, 1 there is no proof of HOW or WHY the universe exists as it is. 2 Faith requires belief and it takes as much faith to believe in science as it does in "God". 3 Basic physics says that engery cannot be destroyed only converted to its other forms or absorbed by a larger force. 4 Electrical impulses in the brain and through the body allow us to be "alive". 5 If that energy cannot be destroyed when it leaves the body it must be transformed or absorbed. 6 When it is transformed it will be in the "afterlife".

As to what you believe that is your choice and I will FULLY respect it. My choice is to believe the Biblical account of the creation of the Cosmos and that in one of those 7 to 12 other dimensions are enitities beyond my comprehension. Outside of all of those dimensions is the realm of the Living God and He is nothing like a man at all. This is why he said don't make any statues of the things on, in or below the earth to represent Him. They don't do Him justice.

Now if you believe or don't believe as I do its okay. Sometime in the next 150 years everyone living today will know for sure if there is a God, an afterlife, or if we need to have a relationship with Christ, because by then we will all be dead. The people of 2161 may still be having this debate. But we will know for sure which camp was right.

Hope to see you in heaven. But if I'm not there please, praise the Lord for me.
Love always.

jrc
05-17-2011, 03:00 PM
Well said.

Zhangliqun
05-20-2011, 07:50 AM
Here is my answer to one poster in there:

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QUOTE - The questions of whether or not there is a god, a heaven, a hell, or past lives, future lives, etc. or whether or not the bible or any other holy book is true are nothing but distractions from here and now. If you are living a truly compassionate life right now, focused on who and what is in front of you, knowledge of such things would mean nothing. - UNQUOTE

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Nonsense. Whether or not there is a God or afterlife is the most important question there is. Knowledge of such things is the only thing that can give a “truly compassionate life” any meaning at all. Without it, such a life is just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic until the water – not caring the slightest bit how compassionate you were – closes over your head every bit as brutally just-above-freezing and every bit as permanently as it does over those who had not the least bit of compassion for anyone ever.

If there is no God to infuse every subatomic particle in the universe with eternal meaning and purpose, there is no objective or rational basis for believing that life has any meaning at all -- or that there even is such a thing as meaning. Without such a foundation there is no right/wrong, good/evil, only atoms and accidents. The here and now doesn’t matter. What came before the here and now doesn’t matter. What comes next doesn’t matter. This is because when God is kicked out of the room, atoms and accidents are the only reality, and atoms and accidents do not care about the here and now or anything else.

Or as Dennis Prager put it: “Only if there is a God who created man is man worth anything beyond the chemicals of which he is composed.”

The cloud of atoms that composes me or you is therefore of no more inherent value than the cloud of atoms that make up a rock. Yet we would imprison or even execute someone for killing you or me -- but not for breaking a rock. But why if both atom clouds are of the same value – which is to say no value at all?

The God-denier just tacitly ASSUMES that life matters and that human life is sacred, that torturing children with a blowtorch and a pair of pliers is bad and helping old ladies across the street is good but can’t say why. They might offer such secular platitudes as “take comfort: evolution says we should be compassionate and good” or “that’s okay, you just create your own meaning” or “it’s nice to be nice”.

But these aren’t answers at all, just ways of changing the subject, like turning up the car radio when you hear funny noises from the engine.

In a universe of impregnable futility, what is that but the blindest of faith?