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Micter
03-21-2005, 04:57 AM
Here is a link to a song I just got through recording. Let me know what ya think.

http://www.guitaristworks.com/forum/ezdloads.php?f=1&t=218

Micter
03-22-2005, 05:54 AM
28 hits and nobody has anything to say. :banghead :popcorn :dunno

Whatever!

seagullplayer
03-22-2005, 11:44 AM
:cool:

Maybe a little heavy instrumental, maybe not, but I like.

Rafaella
03-22-2005, 12:02 PM
Hi there Micter,

I think the song is nice.
The words are simple, good to remember.
The music,..the gitar I thought was not tuned very well.
Allthough I like the song in general, I thought it was a pitty that the other instruments were not real.
I think with a real violin it would be so much nicer.
The voices I liked very much by the way.

Thanks for sharing.
God bless,
Rafaëlla

reverbbb
03-22-2005, 01:28 PM
Micter:

I did not see this post until today.

I will list my "opinions" as a pros & cons list. Mind you, that the cons are not listed as something that you must change, just something to consider. When I write and post my songs, it can be tough to take suggestions, but in the long run, it is helpful. For instance, I have gotten comments about my background vocals sounding like elves. That is cool. I can take that as something that I want to exploit, or something that I want redefine.

Pros:

1) awesome vocal textures
2) vocals are well mixed
3) great message
4) great melodic shift from the verse to chorus
5) well placed leads
6) the synth violin adds a great new dimension to the song and "songs" in general
7) nice pads for blending the sound
8) nice delay on the drum entry into the song
9) overall great musicianship
10) I love songs that use acoustic guitars as the foundation but with electric rock guitars adding flair

Cons:

1) the first rhythm electric guitar sounds a bit distant (lively in the mix - the loudness is OK, I'm talking about the "feel")
2) the first rhythm electric guitar could use a little more comping style to help accent the fact that the acoustic is the main rhythm instrument
3) the first rhythm electric guitar could use a little more tone and less gain
4) bass guitar was a bit weak in the mix
5) the "formula" for intros is generally less than 15 seconds
6) the minor 6th intro makes the song sound dark - perhaps a short portion of the chorus for intro or some formulation of the 1st major chords.
7) overall mix was great, but sounded a bit digital based (sparkly clean)

On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being top message and/or professional format), I would rate this song as a 7.5. Sorry if I am being too honest with my opinions. I expect the same candidness with my work but rarely get that type of feedback. I personally feel that many of my songs barely edge over the 5 or 6 rating mark. So, in that sense, I feel that you have done a better job than I have on my songs.

Keep up the great work and effort. I know from personal experience, it takes a lot of motivation and encouragement to get these songs done.

May God continue to bless your heart and talents.

TheViking
03-22-2005, 01:38 PM
About the song:
I like it. It kinda gives me a 80's rock vibe. I think the chorus is good and "catchy", something people would sing along to in a concert. I also like the bridge idea before the guitar solo.

When it comes to the orchestration it's a matter of taste, I miss a little build up in the orchestration. Like adding a bit more at the time. For instance the female backing vocals would have a lot more effect if they appeared in the second verse. The drums are the weakest part. the breaks are a bit messy.

I do think the song has a lot of potential, but i would maybe strip it down a bit and make it tighter and rather use some of the instrumetns and parts as highlights.

Well this is my opinion anyways. thanx for sharing

Micter
03-22-2005, 02:22 PM
See that's what I was looking for.

I'm making some changes!!

seagullplayer
03-22-2005, 07:00 PM
Wow, I would love to get a couple of my songs online for you guys to listen too. That's the kind of feedback a guy can use! :cool:

I could see a whole part of the forum just for that kind of thing in the future. An area to share songs, for others to use, or for others to give some opinions...

Crunchyriff
03-22-2005, 08:25 PM
Bro Micter-

(and this is coming from a guy who loves a good chorus pedal)
to add to what's already been given, dump the "chrous" on that rhythm electric guitar track. It's 'too washy', and IMHO, is working against the rest of the texture in this arrangement. I would try this before backing down on the amp gain. Watch the whole thing just 'poof', lock in better, when you dump the chorus on it. Go dry. It will also come across more powerful in the chorus of the song this way.

If you just can't abide without ANY chorus on that guitar track make the effect much more subtle and not so dominant- say, 25-35% chorus.
just my sixpence..

Crunchy out, bro.

TheViking
03-22-2005, 08:33 PM
.... I would appreciate if we could state WHAT we want feedback on. Like Lyrics, music, orchestrtation, sounds and so on or even all of the above. Makes it easier to know what kinda feedback is wanted.

Crunchyriff
03-22-2005, 09:17 PM
Not a bad idea, you club-wielding guy!

Micter
03-22-2005, 11:45 PM
Bro Micter-

(and this is coming from a guy who loves a good chorus pedal)
to add to what's already been given, dump the "chrous" on that rhythm electric guitar track. It's 'too washy', and IMHO, is working against the rest of the texture in this arrangement. I would try this before backing down on the amp gain. Watch the whole thing just 'poof', lock in better, when you dump the chorus on it. Go dry. It will also come across more powerful in the chorus of the song this way.

If you just can't abide without ANY chorus on that guitar track make the effect much more subtle and not so dominant- say, 25-35% chorus.
just my sixpence..

Crunchy out, bro.

It's actually a flanger but I get the point. I was trying that just to see what it would sound like. It's just a plug in so it can be removed easily.

Also I have a problem with the way the acoustic and electric guitars don't mesh in the begining of the song. I am gonna take the acoustic out of the mix til the vocals come in. The female vocal is gonna come in on the first chorus. I'm not real fond of the performance on the drums but there isn't much I can do about that. I would have liked to see more POP on the snare but Oh Well!

Crunchyriff
03-23-2005, 12:00 AM
It's just a plug in so it can be removed easily.


COOL!!!

mattd
03-24-2005, 05:10 AM
which song is this? i've already heard "plain to see" and "jiyf" and given you my opinions on them. if it's a new one i'll take a listen.

Micter
03-24-2005, 05:30 AM
which song is this? i've already heard "plain to see" and "jiyf" and given you my opinions on them. if it's a new one i'll take a listen.

different one bro! It's called Bring Me Through. I've been having trouble with the mix/production.