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mattd
11-12-2007, 12:56 AM
i was reading a book for school the other day, and the author was making a point about Adam and Eve, and brought these thoughts to mind, even though this wasn't the topic the author was on at all.

i worked the past year as a youth ministry intern and without a doubt the subject with the most materials out there to teach from is the subject of dating. the underlying theme of most of these resources is that "you don't need a boyfriend/girlfriend to be happy," or "if your relationship with God is right then you should be perfectly happy by yourself." but yet, it seems to contradict the reason that Eve was made for Adam in the first place. the author said that Adam was lonely, although i can't find that in any of my translations of the Bible, and i find it hard to believe that he was seeing as how it was a perfect world at that time. what the Bible says is that God saw the need for woman while Adam was naming the animals and says that "God saw no helper that was suitable for Adam."

this says to me that God saw a need for us to have that companion, that he created us for companionship with someone besides him. that seems to be the oppisite of what we teach, but think about it: this is BEFORE the fall: God was still walking right next to Adam in the garden of eden, they still had unbroken communication. yet the text implies that Adam had a longing for something more, and God saw and met that need.

it seems to me that what we teach our youth these days is in direct contradiction to this and if anyone has thoughts on this topic i'd love to hear them, although this is more of me just thinking out loud than an actual question.

Ravindave_3600
11-12-2007, 03:01 AM
the underlying theme of most of these resources is that "you don't need a boyfriend/girlfriend to be happy," or "if your relationship with God is right then you should be perfectly happy by yourself."

I'd never teach that; it's anti-biblical.

On the other hand, teaching kids that they don't need a "hands-on" relationship until they are ready for a mate is fully Biblical.

Crunchyriff
11-12-2007, 04:39 AM
ADAM needed a mate to procreate with, and he had no other human, and more specifically, no female. All the other creatures had a counterpart, ADAM did not.

That said, not everybody is created to have a love relationship on earth with a spouse, either.

Kitty
11-12-2007, 08:30 AM
Have you ever noticed that God purposefully "taught" Adam that he needed Eve?

Strat-tastic
11-12-2007, 09:22 AM
Genesis 2: 18
The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."

This is the only thing that was not good in God's creation, the man being on his own. So God met the need and created woman. I think, in the context of dating, that if you have a right relationship with God, then you'll be happy to be patient and trust that He will bring a 'suitable' partner into your life. Ask me, I know, I've been patient for long enough now :mad: ;)

mattd, you've done it again! You have a gift for starting off interesting topics :)

Crunchyriff
11-12-2007, 10:21 AM
Have you ever noticed that God purposefully "taught" Adam that he needed Eve?

hehehehehe

touche', Kitty!! :D rofl

Micter
11-14-2007, 06:08 AM
All I know is God said "It isn't good for man to be alone". Then God made Eve.

davesg
11-15-2007, 12:17 AM
1 Cor.7:8 But I say to the unmarried and to the widows: It is good for them if they remain even as I am; 9 but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

I have figured out what this passage really means.

1) DON"T GET MARRIED!
2) Only marry if you cannot control your lust
3) If you cannot control your lust, get married so that she can control it for you

The gospel according to Dave

rofl :yeah: rofl

Crunchyriff
11-15-2007, 12:52 AM
1 Cor.7:8 But I say to the unmarried and to the widows: It is good for them if they remain even as I am; 9 but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

I have figured out what this passage really means.

1) DON"T GET MARRIED!
2) Only marry if you cannot control your lust
3) If you cannot control your lust, get married so that she can control it for you

The gospel according to Dave

rofl :yeah: rofl

That would be from 1Dave 3:2-5....

mattd
11-15-2007, 01:33 AM
since you brought that passage up...how do you feel that fits in with the rest of the Bible in terms of what God said? "it is good for man to not be alone." seems to contadict it in my view.


and while we're on the subject...meanest thing i ever told a girl (joking of course). "I never knew what Paul meant in 1 corinthians 7 until i met you." ;)