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Teleguy
02-19-2005, 03:07 PM
Lately I've been screwing together a couple of tele clones. Tele's are simple and direct, and USED to be inexpensive!
I remember decades when old Tele's were just old planks for $200.

I gather parts from a variety of sources, sometimes just buying a cheap used guitar for the neck, etc.

I was in a store yesterday and fancied that those new Squire 51's had a Tele neck I could use, though I consider $150 dollars for just a made in Indonesia neck a bit pricey.
Anyway I picked it up to check it out and played it a bit unplugged, and dang if it didn't ring acoustically as if it had a little something to bring to the party! It seemed just a touch cheesy, but the neck was cool enough to work with and I was sorta struck by the concept: it's a basic Affinity thickness Strat style basswood body with no trem, and just two pickups (a bridge humbucker and neck position Strat pu).
So I bought it.

Once home I A/B'd it with my favorite parts-o-tele, through my amp, and this lil' ol' Squire 51 is a pretty cool guitar!
It held its own pretty well against my "skronky sounding" tele, even though it's not quite as rude sounding, and sounds about between a Tele and a Strat.
There's no real Strat "quack" (no middle pickup), and even in single coil mode, the bridge pu does not quite get to Tele-land, but it sounds good by itself in all pickup combinations.
Basswood has an airey sound, to my ears, which this guitar has, and I like it.

There is no tone control: just a push-pull vol pot and coil splitter, and a three way rotary switch. I can hear the magnets are ceramic, and probably they use a bar magnet under the polepieces in the neck pu, ala Squire Strats, some MIM Strats, etc.
But the bridge humbucker has some spanky brightness.
The bridge itself is a top loader with cheap diecast Strat saddles. No string-through (yet). :innocent

I bought it as a possible basis for a project, but I'm gonna leave it alone for a while and see how it plays in a live setting or two, as a spare to my tele's. It's kinda a gas to play with its tones (all the tones are good and usable).

The neck is ok: has sorta squared off (top) medium/jumbo frets on a maple neck. 9.5radius I'm guessing. Not real sophisticated polished maple neck feeling, but not uncomfortable either. I've played much worse feeling, and it has a little tint to it, so it's not stark white like some MIM's I've seen (with teeny little vintage frets). :banghead
They "roll" the edges slightly, which takes off the finish on the neck edges, but I doesn't feel near as comfy as say, an American Series Tele or Strat. The fret-ends are ok, nothing stellar by any stretch.

Mine's black & white. Here's a link/pic:
http://www.squierguitars.com/gear/show_product.php?product=0325100&feature_id=0:0

Wally
02-19-2005, 04:44 PM
I really like the looks of those, especially the butterscoth w/ black guard, but I guess they started shipping those w/ a white guard pretty soon after they were released.

stephen
02-19-2005, 08:40 PM
....... bulding quite a "buzz" for itself: It looks like it could be cheezy, ala mid/late 70's knock-off guitars, but I keep hearin people say how good it is!

Well, it looks like Squier's done it again, and gotten themselves a good pony in their stables.

Teleguy
02-20-2005, 03:02 AM
...could be cheezy, ala mid/late 70's knock-off guitars, but I keep hearin people say how good it is...


Well, even I used the word cheesy, but the only cheese factor I can find is the body thickness is Affinity style (thinner than stock Strats), but that doesn't seem to hurt anything.

The tuners are sealed type and smooth even, albeit some lash. Nothing worse than a lot of Grovers I've experienced.

The sustain seems ok in my living room. Time will tell if I need to drill it for back loading. We'll see. I want to play it out before I make any decisions.
So far it's a gas. Definite high fun factor. Guitars are just toys to me anymore, not tools. I no longer have any image to live up to. :angel

There's enough meat on the frets for a couple levelings, but it's precise enough as is, so I'll put off dressing them for a while.

I doubt they'll be coming from Indonesia anymore. Prolly future batches will be from China?

Low bucks yucks, for sure!

Pearly Gator
02-20-2005, 03:17 AM
I second the Squire 51 necks. I tries a couple at GC and the necks were very nice. I wish that neck was on the Squier Tele Custom II I played. I'd have brought it home. :innocent

PG

Teleguy
02-21-2005, 02:36 AM
I second the Squire 51 necks. I tries a couple at GC and the necks were very nice. I wish that neck was on the Squier Tele Custom II I played. I'd have brought it home. :innocent

PG

I hear that.
I was maybe gonna buy it to put the neck on a Tele I have with a rosewood fretboard, because I really like maple Tele necks, but it's stayin' put!

refin
07-03-2005, 02:36 AM
I thought the same thing...buy it,take the neck off for a parts-caster,put another neck on it and sell it.
I haven't bought one yet,but the tone and playability is incredible for a buck fifty guitar.The only thing I would probably do is replace the front pup with a noiseless design,like a Lawrence.The one I played needed the fret edges touched up,but the tone was cool.....and,it looks like the love child of an early fifties P-Bass and a Tele.

jazzrat
07-07-2005, 10:57 AM
A guy over at the TDPRI posted some live jazz combo clips with his....
surprisingly good tone.